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| message from Gary Jones on 16 Mar 2005 |
I'm migrating my account from BTY to Nildram and ideally would like to keep
my BTY email account, I would be grateful if anyone else has done this and
how to go about it.
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| pete devlin replied to Gary Jones on 17 Mar 2005 |
Which is why they charge nothing now but will in future. Or disappear.
You failed to mention where they are getting their revenue from.
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| Ivor Jones replied to Gary Jones on 16 Mar 2005 |
Why bother..? Just set up a free account at www.despammed.com and point it
to any address you like. You can change the destination as often as you
like plus you get excellent anti-spam filtering as well.
Ivor
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| TP replied to Ivor Jones on 16 Mar 2005 |
Alternatively (slightly more expensive than the above, but no need to
dial-up every so often), you can downgrade to BT Premium Mail - £1.50/month.
I did it - reasonably hassle-free.. though it was a couple of phone calls
(one to cancel the ISP access billed via the phone bill, one to sign-up for
the mail service and give bank details). I made sure both operators
understood I wanted the same mail account to remain active, and they
obliged.
As I'd gone for a no-frills broadband ISP without email, I was no worse off.
And I rate BT's mail service very highly, not least for its anti-spam which
is virtually 90pc effective for me.
Shame their BB offering is so expensive, but can't have everything, eh?!
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| Steve replied to Ivor Jones on 16 Mar 2005 |
I think your misisng the point here of what the OP wanted. Nothing wrong
with despammed that I can see, but if the OP wanted to keep his BTY address
(to save the hassle of telling everyone and reregistering with website that
have the BTY address) then signing up to despammed wouldnt help!
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:39r7g7F64q4p4U1@individual.net...
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| Ivor Jones replied to Steve on 16 Mar 2005 |
I didn't miss the point, I know exactly what the OP wanted, but I was
suggesting a once and for all workround. An address independent of any ISP
will forever remove the need to advise people when a change of ISP
happens. It will be necessary this time, but never again.
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones replied to Ivor Jones on 16 Mar 2005 |
Who..? If you mean despammed, why..?
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones replied to Ivor Jones on 17 Mar 2005 |
Actually they don't. At least in 2 years of using it I've never had any
adverts. They say they *may* do this but it's never happened to me nor do
I know anyone who has had this happen. The subscription service if it
comes will be optional, nobody will force anyone to use it.
You're right, ISP's do have spam filtering and very good it is too in most
cases. However IMHO a belt & braces approach never hurt and the forwarding
is and will remain free so your argument doesn't apply there. If you want
you can use the system as a purely web based email service and not use
forwarding at all.
I use the system purely in order to be able to give an address to someone
who I might not want to know my true email address, such as when filling
in a form on a website that wants an email address. Once I know and trust
them then I may decide to give them my real address.
You're entitled to your opinion of course and obviously despammed isn't
for you, but it does suit the needs of a great many people.
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones replied to Ivor Jones on 17 Mar 2005 |
They've been going at least 5 years to my knowledge, surely they'd have
charged by now if they were going to..?
As to revenue, maybe advertising on the website..? I don't know because my
anti-advert filter works..!
Ivor
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| Hiram Hackenbacker replied to Ivor Jones on 17 Mar 2005 |
The problem with this argument is the use of a "free" account. So what
happens when (not if) they start charging?
Future charges may be too high for the poster - so it may not be a once
and for all workaround.
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| Ivor Jones replied to Hiram Hackenbacker on 17 Mar 2005 |
*If* despammed ever offer a paid service the free service will remain.
Nowhere on their site do they say the free service will ever be removed. I
have been using them for over 2 years and I know that they have been in
existence for at least 5 years and this paid for service seems no nearer
to being brought in.
Nothing is ever certain, but it's highly unlikely. If you really don't
trust despammed then go and get a domain name from somewhere and use that
as a forwarding address. You get a separate POP3 box with most as well and
they don't charge the earth (mine is £7.50 for 2 years).
Ivor
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| Hiram Hackenbacker replied to Ivor Jones on 17 Mar 2005 |
Never say never - how can you be sure what the future owners/operators
of this organisation will do? Still if it works for you fine - I just
don't share your faith in what can be read on a website. I suppose I
ought therefore to take their words "Consider donating to keep Despammed
free and feisty" with a pinch of salt too.
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| Nick replied to Hiram Hackenbacker on 17 Mar 2005 |
Yeah, he already said that - the bit about "Nothing is ever certain" (that
you snipped) sort of covers that, doesn't it? Man, are you always such fun?
;o)
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| Hiram Hackenbacker replied to Nick on 17 Mar 2005 |
And there was me thinking his "Nothing is ever certain" comment related
to the later paragraph I had written about the cost being too high for
the OP.
Anyway I am retiring from usenet at the end of the month so make the
most of the fun.
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| Nick replied to Hiram Hackenbacker on 17 Mar 2005 |
Hehehehe...
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| pete devlin replied to Gary Jones on 16 Mar 2005 |
Where is their money coming from? Oh by spamming your emails with
advertising. Not the kind of service I'll be using. They just happen to
mention in their FAQ that a subscription service is coming. What a
shock.
All proper ISPs have anti spam filters nowadays so they do not really
cover a niche that people would be prepared to pay for. What they do do,
ie the forwarding isn't going to attract paying customers unless they
introduce pop3 and smtp and there is plenty of cheap competition in that
area.
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| pete devlin replied to Gary Jones on 17 Mar 2005 |
Another.com used to be a nice handy ISP independent email utility. They
were never going to charge. I had to bin one of my favourite email
addresses when they started charging. Bar stewards. I won't be making
that mistake again. As with all things in life - if something appears
too good to be true, it is! You don't get anything for nothing.
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| pete devlin replied to Gary Jones on 17 Mar 2005 |
Admittedly it is a bit of a long loss leader!
There's none that I can see. Therefore I presume that they are part of a
bigger outfit and are being subsidised by it. Soon enough some suit is
going to realise they are losing money and will pull the plug or try to
make money out of it. You don't get owt for nowt!
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| N/A replied to Gary Jones on 16 Mar 2005 |
Hi, I migrated from BTYahoo to PlusNet last August & my pop3 BT email
accounts are still working. All I do is check the accounts for new mail
regularly, I think that checking the pop3 mail server keeps the accounts
live. You may see some opinions suggesting that you need to register as a
PAYG customer on dail up and log in on that account occasionally, but I
haven't done that & my email is still working OK.
I use mailwasher which is set up to check mail from several accounts
including BTInternet and my current ISP PlusNet. I did have an old Tiscali
email address when they were my ISP about 3 years ago and that still worked
just by regular checking, but I dumped it last year because it became filled
with spam.
If you use a POP3 client to access your email, just keep the pop3 settings
as they are and change over the smtp setting to Nildrams so that you will be
abe to send mail out.
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| pete devlin replied to Gary Jones on 16 Mar 2005 |
I'd be very surprised if they are still around in 5 years or so.
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| pete devlin replied to Gary Jones on 16 Mar 2005 |
Probably because everybody knows to send an email to his BTY address if
they want him to read it!
Sounds good.
For the OP, just downgrade your BTY account to payg. You only have to
log in by old fashioned modem once every 3 months or so. I make that a
cost of 20p per year. Worth it IMHO.
If you haven't got an old fashioned modem, and I think it's worth having
one to send and receive faxes and as back up, I think you can log in and
retrieve your account every so often if it has been cancelled.
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