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Re: Poor quality push-fit fittings - I've found some! |
| message from Lurch on 18 May 2004 |
You haven't been hacking at the pipe with a rusty breadknife have you?
I know some people do! ;-)
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| Grunff replied to Lurch on 18 May 2004 |
I use my guineapig for all my plastic pipe cutting. Always keep him in
the toolbox.
Actually it was a copper pipe, which had a perfect cut produced by a
pipe cutter. So was the second pipe.
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| Christian McArdle replied to Grunff on 19 May 2004 |
Did you use end caps on the copper? These are little plastic parts which
prevent the copper from damaging/dislodging the O-ring.
Christian.
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| Grunff replied to Christian McArdle on 19 May 2004 |
No, I didn't - but I've never, ever used them on any pushfit fitting
before. That includes hundreds of SpeedFit, Hep and Cuprofit fittings.
What I always do is make sure that when I cut the pipe I cut it a bit
tight, so the cutter pinches the end a little, producing a slight taper.
TBH I don't think they'd have helped with these fittings. The second
o-ring is just dying to come out of its groove. It takes very little
effort to move it.
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| Christian McArdle replied to Grunff on 19 May 2004 |
So basically a batch quality issue? Perhaps the groove has been badly
formed.
Christian.
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| Grunff replied to Christian McArdle on 19 May 2004 |
Yes, either batch or product design issue. The groove for the second
ring is really very shallow - just about 1mm deep. As a result the first
ring (which is in a deeper grrove) stays in place, while the second one
gets pushed out.
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| Lurch replied to Grunff on 18 May 2004 |
Ah, just as well I don't buy any plumbing products from Screwfix then.
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| Grunff replied to Lurch on 18 May 2004 |
They carry a pretty good selection of JG Speedfit, and at much better
prices than my local plumbers merchant.
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| Lurch replied to Grunff on 18 May 2004 |
My sister works at Plumb Center, so I get everything cheaper than
Screwfix! And they have large stocks of all things JG.
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| Andy Hall replied to Lurch on 18 May 2004 |
Presumably including the pipe cutters....... :-)
.andy
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| Lurch replied to Andy Hall on 18 May 2004 |
I'd assume so, all the pros I've seen locally use Plumb Center, and
have pipe cutters so there must be some link! Personally, I use my
Hilmor freebies, not had a leak yet on any plastic pipe, emergency or
otherwise.
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| John Stumbles replied to Lurch on 19 May 2004 |
Ours is not so much a plumbers' merchants, more a way of life ;-)
Unfortunately I don't make money hanging around trade counters drinking
plastic coffee and making smalltalk, and I have to pay for stuff out of what
I earn, so I only go in there if I'm desperate.
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| Andy Hall replied to John Stumbles on 19 May 2004 |
One can certainly tell who's employed and who isn't in these
places.....
.andy
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| Lurch replied to Andy Hall on 19 May 2004 |
Or those who just don't give a ****!
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| Ed Sirett replied to Lurch on 19 May 2004 |
They're behind the counter IME.
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| G&M replied to Lurch on 18 May 2004 |
Can't be our Plumb Center then. Guy who tried to serve me last time I
ventured in wouldn't have known what a pipe cutter was even if I'd used it
on him.
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| Lurch replied to G&M on 18 May 2004 |
We've got one of those, he 'struggles' a bit with anything more
technical than a request for 'a 15mm balofix'!
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| BillV replied to Lurch on 19 May 2004 |
Several muppets in our local one didn't know anything about the bathroom
displays they have, even prices. "too new for us to know sir".
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| Lurch replied to Lurch on 19 May 2004 |
I could, but I don't use plastic, and if I do it's generally Hep.
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| IMM replied to Grunff on 19 May 2004 |
And the O ring comes out of those too.
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