Re: Poor quality push-fit fittings - I've found some!

message from Lurch on 18 May 2004
You haven't been hacking at the pipe with a rusty breadknife have you?
I know some people do! ;-)
 
Grunff replied to Lurch on 18 May 2004
I use my guineapig for all my plastic pipe cutting. Always keep him in
the toolbox.

Actually it was a copper pipe, which had a perfect cut produced by a
pipe cutter. So was the second pipe.
 
Christian McArdle replied to Grunff on 19 May 2004
Did you use end caps on the copper? These are little plastic parts which
prevent the copper from damaging/dislodging the O-ring.

Christian.
 
Christian McArdle replied to Christian McArdle on 19 May 2004
P.S. See the below to see what I mean.

http://www.hep20.co.uk/v2Ocopper1.cfm

Christian.
 
Grunff replied to Christian McArdle on 19 May 2004
No, I didn't - but I've never, ever used them on any pushfit fitting
before. That includes hundreds of SpeedFit, Hep and Cuprofit fittings.

What I always do is make sure that when I cut the pipe I cut it a bit
tight, so the cutter pinches the end a little, producing a slight taper.

TBH I don't think they'd have helped with these fittings. The second
o-ring is just dying to come out of its groove. It takes very little
effort to move it.
 
Christian McArdle replied to Grunff on 19 May 2004
So basically a batch quality issue? Perhaps the groove has been badly
formed.

Christian.
 
Grunff replied to Christian McArdle on 19 May 2004
Yes, either batch or product design issue. The groove for the second
ring is really very shallow - just about 1mm deep. As a result the first
ring (which is in a deeper grrove) stays in place, while the second one
gets pushed out.
 
Lurch replied to Grunff on 18 May 2004
Ah, just as well I don't buy any plumbing products from Screwfix then.
 
Grunff replied to Lurch on 18 May 2004
They carry a pretty good selection of JG Speedfit, and at much better
prices than my local plumbers merchant.
 
Lurch replied to Grunff on 18 May 2004
My sister works at Plumb Center, so I get everything cheaper than
Screwfix! And they have large stocks of all things JG.
 
Andy Hall replied to Lurch on 18 May 2004
Presumably including the pipe cutters....... :-)

.andy

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Lurch replied to Andy Hall on 18 May 2004
I'd assume so, all the pros I've seen locally use Plumb Center, and
have pipe cutters so there must be some link! Personally, I use my
Hilmor freebies, not had a leak yet on any plastic pipe, emergency or
otherwise.
 
John Stumbles replied to Lurch on 19 May 2004
Ours is not so much a plumbers' merchants, more a way of life ;-)

Unfortunately I don't make money hanging around trade counters drinking
plastic coffee and making smalltalk, and I have to pay for stuff out of what
I earn, so I only go in there if I'm desperate.
 
Andy Hall replied to John Stumbles on 19 May 2004
One can certainly tell who's employed and who isn't in these
places.....

.andy

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Lurch replied to Andy Hall on 19 May 2004
Or those who just don't give a ****!
 
Ed Sirett replied to Lurch on 19 May 2004
They're behind the counter IME.
 
G&M replied to Lurch on 18 May 2004
Can't be our Plumb Center then. Guy who tried to serve me last time I
ventured in wouldn't have known what a pipe cutter was even if I'd used it
on him.
 
Lurch replied to G&M on 18 May 2004
We've got one of those, he 'struggles' a bit with anything more
technical than a request for 'a 15mm balofix'!
 
BillV replied to Lurch on 19 May 2004
Several muppets in our local one didn't know anything about the bathroom
displays they have, even prices. "too new for us to know sir".
 
Lurch replied to Lurch on 19 May 2004
I could, but I don't use plastic, and if I do it's generally Hep.
 
IMM replied to Grunff on 19 May 2004
And the O ring comes out of those too.
 

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