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| message from Andy Hall on 09 May 2004 |
You didn't read what I said. I didn't say that everybody should be
charged.
- Most people don't need to use a trolley apart from around the store
and to the car. The correct thing to do is to have drop points for
the trollies at regular intervals around the car park and then to have
somebody who spends part of their time collecting up trollies and
returning them to the front of the store. THis is perfectly simple
to do and common practice. Both of my kids worked in a local
supermarket during their school holidays when they were at school, and
trollies were simply one of the rotation jobs that didn't require a
full time person.
- If there are people who would like to take a trolley home because
they don't have a car or are incapable in some way of buying a
shopping trolley, then it is perfectly reasonable for them to be
charged a substantial deposit and ideally a fee for so doing.
.andy
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| Jerry. replied to Andy Hall on 9 May 2004 |
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Everybody would need to be charged, how do you know who is going to remove
the trolley (how will someone waiting by the 'trolley bay' to impose this
surcharge know who has a car and who doesn't ?
My local TESCO's (all three of them) and my local Sainsbury have full time
staff to do what you suggest - the system does not work due to the lazy
customers who just dump their trolleys in the next parking place to were
they parked rather than in the 'trolley dropping zones', the trolley men
spend all their time chasing all over the car parks freeing up parking
places !
But half the problem is not the people who take trolleys but the ones who
don't leave them were they should when finished with, when those types are
faced with either loosing a pound or taking the trolley to the drop zone
they tend to do the latter....
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| Andy Hall replied to Jerry. on 09 May 2004 |
Simple. If you want to remove trolley from carpark on foot, then you
pay.
There must be a geographical factor in this. I don't see it
happening at all. More typically if somebody tries to leave a
trolley where they shouldn't, another customer will point it out or if
it's somebody with small kids, the trolley man will return the trolley
for them.
Probably a matter of geography I suspect.
.andy
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| Ian Stirling replied to Andy Hall on 09 May 2004 |
And who enforces this?
And who watches over him as he's carrying lots of tenners.
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| Andy Hall replied to Ian Stirling on 10 May 2004 |
Easy.
Barrier around carpark and magnetic grids and wheel locks as some
supermarkets have done prevents unauthorised removal from the area.
Car park attendant in cabin collects deposits from those wishing to
borrow trollies.
I think in practice that only a very small minority would want to
borrow a trolley anyway and would quickly come up with their own
transport arrangement home anyway. After all, countless old ladies
manage it.
Then, quite rightly, the minority who want to take a supermarket owned
trolley away can do so without the majority of customers being
inconvenienced; or they can choose to make their own arrangements.
.andy
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| Jerry. replied to Andy Hall on 10 May 2004 |
And who pays for all this, not the people who borrow the trolleys, most
would bring it back the next shopping trip (and then remove it again to go
back home) and the ones that don't return the trolley have themselves a
cheap trolley - which the retailer than has to replace at the true market
value....
You will soon be complaining that the prices are rising, or that you now
have to [pay to use a trolley.
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| Andy Hall replied to Jerry. on 10 May 2004 |
Very obvious. The people who want to borrow the trollies. Collect a
£10 deposit and refund £9. This may teach them to make their own
arrangements. A low cost lesson is self sufficiency.
.andy
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| Toby replied to Andy Hall on 10 May 2004 |
How about making this £1 refundable on return; they could also use some kind
of trolley mounted mechanism to save on staff costs? Can't see anyone having
a problem with that?
My patent alternative: how about a vinyl bag on a lightweight chromed frame.
Two wheels, a handle and a leg, maybe even make the bag in a variety of
tartan patterns?
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| Bob Eager replied to Toby on 10 May 2004 |
That's probably what Andy uses!
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| Andy Hall replied to Bob Eager on 11 May 2004 |
Nah. Too small.
.andy
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| Ian Stirling replied to Andy Hall on 12 May 2004 |
I'd think that there must be specialist manufacturers catering to the
shorter shopper.
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| Owain replied to Bob Eager on 11 May 2004 |
"Bob Eager" wrote
| > My patent alternative: how about a vinyl bag on a lightweight
| > chromed frame. Two wheels, a handle and a leg, maybe even make
| > the bag in a variety of tartan patterns?
| That's probably what Andy uses!
No, Andy will have his shopping delivered by Waitburys. To save waiting in,
he's probably got a shopping-sized mailbox the delivery person can leave the
boxes in, with separate climate controlled compartments for chilled and
frozen foods, imported from Denmark and powered by a small thermal engine
running off a dedicated loop on the central heating system.
Owain
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| Andy Hall replied to Owain on 11 May 2004 |
Nope.
Now there's an idea.
.andy
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| Andy Hall replied to Toby on 11 May 2004 |
I hadn't realised, but apparently it's the case, that standard pikey
uniform is a Burberry hat of some sort. Very odd.
.andy
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| T i m replied to Jerry. on 11 May 2004 |
Our local Sainburys bought 200 new trolleys and within days 50 had
gone missing and been replaced with old ones!
T i m
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| Andy Hall replied to T i m on 11 May 2004 |
Then they are rather stupid. They employ store detectives and use
video to prevent other goods walking, so the logical thing would be to
have somebody organising the trollies.
.andy
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| Pete C replied to T i m on 11 May 2004 |
Reminds me, the thing that separates the front compartment from the
rest of the trolly is an ideal grid for a small BBQ :)
cheers,
Pete.
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