Re: Design View doesn't display correctly

message from mrpig on 20 Jul 2004
yep, 9X SE, but it should be compatible, right?
 
Murray *TMM* replied to mrpig on 20 Jul 2004
There's a huge difference between compatible and acceptible.

Your problems are unrelated to RAM, since beyond 1MB additional RAM has no
impact on W9x/ME SystemResources. The problems are simply an antique
operating system's inability to cope with the resource demands of an
application built to run on post 2000 era computers.

Sorry to tell you that, but that's just life....
 
mrpig replied to Murray *TMM* on 20 Jul 2004
I don't have a problem accepting the truth, and I really appreciate your help.
Windows
600 MHz Intel Pentium III processor or equivalent
Windows 98 SE (4.10.2222 A), Windows 2000, Windows XP, or Windows Server 2003
128 MB RAM (256 MB recommended)
275 MB available disk space

If Dreamweaver won't work properly with Windows 98 SE, then Macromedia
shouldn't claim that it does. It is misleading. I have better things to do with
my time (including going shopping to buy XP). I shouldn't have to waste my time
trying to figure this out on my own. If the product is buggy using 9X, then
Macromedia needs to own up to this.

OK, I'm done with my rant... Thanks again for your help.
 
Murray *TMM* replied to mrpig on 20 Jul 2004
Understand how to develop those requirements.

Get a 600MHz PIII processor system. Put in 128MB RAM. Format a hard drive,
install W98SE, install DMX.

Does DMX start? Does it run?

OK - that's a minimum system requirement.

Note that there is no test for whether it runs *well*, nor is there any
warrantee to that effect.

Note also that your W98SE is not a fresh installation, but one that has
degraded over the years to the point where it is so low on System Resources
that you dive into the danger zone merely by opening an application.

But - what would you have them say about W98SE?

The problem (once again) is not that DW is buggy in W98SE. The problem is
that W98SE is an operating system with limited capacity. What you are
seeing is not bugs. It's loss of capacity in the operating system.
 
Murray *TMM* replied to Murray *TMM* on 20 Jul 2004
"Available resources" are hardwired in the W9x/ME operating system (based on
the memory model used in W3x), and taken from the first MB of RAM. There is
nothing you can do to increase this number. There is lots you can do to
decrease this number, like installing other programs. If your hard drive is
not reformatted with only W98SE and DW on it, then you may have (it looks
like this is true) already degraded your available system resources by
installing other software. Note that system resources does NOT refer to
total installed RAM, or freespace on the hard drive, which may be confusing
you.

There is nothing wrong with this statement. It could also be reworded like
this -

DMX is compatible with W98SE ONLY on systems that are carefully tuned to
provide maximum system resources. The same statement could be made for
*any* productivity application that you buy today. W98SE So let's really
call it like it is. You are using an operating system that is not only 5
years old (at best) - a time that is an eternity in terms of computers and
software - but also one that is the next to last gasp (and really the last
partially usable gasp) of a memory model that was first implemented in W3x
(ca. 1988) and only slightly modified since. In other words, you are trying
to use a contemporary application on an operating system that is now 16
years old, and clearly well beyond its envelope of usability.

You'd have to ask them that question. Nevertheless, their minimum
requirements are correct. DMX *does* run on W98SE.

What would you have them say instead of what they say on the specifications?
You can let them know this by sending this to the following mail drop -

http://www.macromedia.com/go/wish/

Never.
 

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