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| message from David Johnston on 16 Jul 2004 |
http://www.capfit.com/
That's the only description I've gotten so I can't go into any more detail,
but if you could take a look and report to me what you think might be
happening, I'd greatly appreciate it.
It looks fine on all four computer monitors I have at various resolutions,
so I can't seem to figure out what they might be talking about...
Thanks VERY much again,
David
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| darrel replied to David Johnston on 16 Jul 2004 |
If you go to your cardio page, I see a giant flash file that covers up the
right column of images/text. It appears you have tried to position your
flash file as a layer on TOP of your content using WMODE to make it
transparent. Well, as you are finding out, this doesn't work in all
browsers. In my case, it isn't working in FireFox. It won't work in any of
the older browsers (AFAIK)
It seems to work ok in IE/PC and Safari/Mac...however, your links in your
flash file don't seem to work in Safari at all...yet another problem.
I'd suggest you just get rid of all the flash. I see no reason to use flash
for a basic column/navigation layout like you have. It's overkill and, as
you are finding out, is causing some accessibility issues.
-Darrel
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| Gary White replied to David Johnston on 16 Jul 2004 |
All you really need to do to see it is enlarge the text size. Of course
anyone without the Flash player will see nothing.
Gary
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| darrel replied to Gary White on 16 Jul 2004 |
No...that's not the issue...it's that there's a flash file on TOP of the
text layer and some browsers can't handle the WMODE transparency.
-Darrel
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| Gary White replied to darrel on 16 Jul 2004 |
I tried it first in Firefox. All I saw was a huge Flash icon telling me I
needed to go download a program to see the site. Then I tried it in IE6 with
the Flash player. I didn't try any of the links. I had no interest in going
deeper into the site. However, I did try increasing the text size in the
browser. Because of the four absolutely position <div>'s, the text from the
higher <div>'s overlapped the lower <div>'s.
That said, I agree with you that this is a flawed approach. To adjust your
browser list slightly, it works on the Mac if you have OS/10. It won't work
in OS9 machines or older. It won't work in any version of Opera on any
platform and it won't work in NN4 or older. I'm not sure where the cutoff
would be on IE/PC, but my guess would be that it's probably supported in 5
and 6, but probably not in 4 or older.
Gary
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| David Johnston replied to Gary White on 17 Jul 2004 |
Hi Gary- sorry I couldn't entice you deeper into the site... sounds like you
were less than impressed. :( Alas, I'm not a designer by trade (could you
tell?)... but thank you both for the input- it does help a great deal!
David
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| dfnnospam replied to David Johnston on 16 Jul 2004 |
Hi David,
The only thing I can see is that the page is too wide and viewers have to
use the horizontal scrollbar.
David.
"David Johnston" <djohnston@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:imWJc.158124$2o2.8665487@twister.southeast.rr.com...
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| D. Johnston replied to David Johnston on 19 Jul 2004 |
Hey everyone- I finally got an image of what the problem *looks* like, (
http://www.detailz.com/copy.jpg but still can't tell with my limited
knowledge what's causing it. The computer this image is from was running
Win98 with IE6 at 1024x768. When I call it up on a similar computer (my
laptop, same resolution, broswer, better OS and speed) it looks okay. Any
ideas?
Thanks...
David
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| D. Johnston replied to D. Johnston on 19 Jul 2004 |
Hi all- okay, thanks to some of the helpful people here, I know that the
site has some inherent problems, but I now know what's causing the overlap-
it's the Broser font size setting. If I take my View/Text size and change it
to "Larger", I get the effect that people were seeing. Now, what I still
don't know is how to guard against this... as always, help appreciated
greatly.
Thanks,
David
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| D. Johnston replied to D. Johnston on 19 Jul 2004 |
Okay- I've got it. Any of the computers I've heard of this issue on had the
text for their browsers set to Large or Largest (View/Text Size/Larger). The
default, and the one the pages were designed with, was Medium.
In a nutshell, anything more than "Medium" extends the text over itself.
I've put constraints on it now so it can't do this no matter what the text
size.
Newbies live and learn...
Thanks!
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| Gary White replied to D. Johnston on 19 Jul 2004 |
So the problem is just what I posted three days ago? ;-)
Now, you just THINK you have solved the problem. You have chosen to make
your text rather small. That means that, if I want to be able to read it
comfortably, I need to increase the size. It takes an extra step, but I
click Tools->Internet Options->Accessibility->Ignore font sizes specified in
pages. You page still explodes.
Of course it's still invisible unless you have the Flash player installed
too. ;-)
Gary
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| D. Johnston replied to Gary White on 19 Jul 2004 |
Apologies, in advance, for group posting this response, but my system balked
at the individual "Reply" I tried to send Gary.
Actually Gary- your original response was obtuse enough that I didn't
realize you were talking about the Text Size in the browser and when you
took on darrel, you'd already lost my interest. I'm well aware that this is
a band-aid and not a fix. The text is the size that the client wished it to
be when viewed with default settings on a browser and I'm willing to take
that compromise as your average user isn't going to be dinking around with
font sizes in any case.
As for the Flash Player? How many sites out there today wouldn't be
accessible without the Flash Player? Again, not worried.
My point- I appreciate the help, but it appears veiled in a layer of disdain
that most folks exhibit when they're dealing with belittling others in order
to amplify themselves. Just a word to the wise...
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| Gary White replied to D. Johnston on 19 Jul 2004 |
There was no disdain intended. I was only pointing out things I thought you
should be aware of. It is your and your customer's decision whether or not
to act on them.
Gary
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