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| message from Jon Yeager on 21 Jul 2004 |
I just realized that only IE will force fonts to remain at their CSS-imposed
sizes, regardless of what font size the end user is using (small, medium,
large, etc).
Firefox and Netscape won't.
Does this mean we have to go back to using GIFs for text if we want a
portion of text to fit within specific confines? I thought CSS was supposed
to fix this problem.
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| darrel replied to Jon Yeager on 21 Jul 2004 |
No, IE is actually wrong.
And yes, if you want a very specific size type, then you use a GIF. Of
course, then it's no longer type and much less accessible.
The better solution is to understand how the web works. One of the ways it
works is that end-users can control type sizes. Live with it. Embrace it.
-Darrel
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| Eric A. Meyer replied to Jon Yeager on 21 Jul 2004 |
Which is felt by many to be a failing of IE, although as Murray
pointed out, IE users can also ignore your font sizing via a slightly
buried preferences setting.
That won't help either, since Opera's "Page Zoom" will resize text
and images, not just text. Mozilla may implement a similar system one
of these days (they've been kicking around the concept for quite a while
now).
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| Al Sparber- PVII replied to Eric A. Meyer on 21 Jul 2004 |
That would be a very good thing.
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| Murray *TMM* replied to Eric A. Meyer on 21 Jul 2004 |
Do you think we can make a trade with them, whereby we allow them to do the
page zoom if they agree to take out the scrollbar adjustment of the page
position?
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| Murray *TMM* replied to Jon Yeager on 21 Jul 2004 |
No. IE will allow you to change them if you enable the accessability
options. This is true only when using pixels for your CSS sizes.
There is no way to really lock font sizes.
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| Michael Fesser replied to Jon Yeager on 21 Jul 2004 |
.oO(Jon Yeager)
Resizing fonts in IE that are specified using px units is not as easy as
in recent browsers, but still possible.
That's how it should be.
No, it does mean that you should fix your broken layout, so that it
adjusts to different font-sizes without collapsing or overlapping
elements (BTW: such flexibility is the default behaviour of HTML).
There are good reasons why some people want to read websites with a
bigger font-size, why would you want to take this feature away and
decrease the accessibility of your site, driving visitors away?
Micha
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| Osgood replied to Jon Yeager on 21 Jul 2004 |
Css doesn't fix the problem, it only helps to delvier a page how you
want it to be viewed upon opening in the browser window. If the end user
then decides to zoom the text they can and they should be able to.
You have done your best to give then a page which you, as the designer,
feel is correct. If they then want to mess with your design then that is
their decision not a reflection on your design.
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